Last night I caught up with all my netflix movies at home, which means I was up till 2:30am!!!

First up, Time, is a Korean movie by Ki-duk Kim recommended by Lucius. Initially, I was worried it would be gory and horrific because of the opening scene of plastic surgery, shown in gory detail. But it's not. It's about an obsessively jealous young woman who is sure her boyfriend of two years is tired of her looks. She decides to have plastic surgery so that she can present a new face (and presumably new body, but that's not clear) to him. It's similar to Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind but here the memories are not erased --and therein lies the problem. The boyfriend truly loves her and when she disappears for six months is devastated....I won't say more about it but it's very interesting and also reminds me (which it did when Lucius told me the basic plot) of Garry Kilworth's wonderful story "Songbirds of Pain."

Then I watched Michael Clayton which I loved. It's a very entertaining thriller with wonderful acting (Tom Wilkinson and Tilda Swinton were indeed excellent)--I adore George Clooney and I'd watch him in anything but I think that because he's such a movie star his "acting" is best appreciated when he's doing something different and small. I'd like to watch and re-watch a bunch of his movies in a row to figure out what I actually DO think of his acting.

I've now seen three of the five nominees. Will get to Juno and Atonement when they're available on netflix.

And what kept me up really late was watching the first four shows of Dexter. Because I knew the basics--sociopathic serial killer channeling his murderous tendencies to kill those who deserve it-- I was not very surprised by the first episode and didn't start really liking the show until the third or fourth episodes. More next week. I'll watch the rest of the first season and see if I want to continue.

From: [identity profile] golaski.livejournal.com


I'll be very curious to hear what you have to say about "Dexter." I watched the first season via instant download--was compelled to watch it through because of some moments: real humor, some excellent images (the first corpse, for example). But: there's quite a lot that has to be overlooked, and some big problems the show creates for itself. The biggest, of course, being the hero serial killer--the very conceit that undid Hannibal Lector in the kissy-smoochy sequal to "The Silence of the Lambs" (since when does Lector only kill people who deserve it? Since "Hannibal," apparently). So yeah, if you get through the whole season--and I'm predicting you will--I'll be interested to read your report.

From: [identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com


Well, Dexter starts off from a different position entirely: the idea of "channeling" his natural inclinations into useful murder.

I'm actually finding the political interplay at the police station as interesting, if not more so than Dexter himself. I'll definitely get through the first season but it'll have to get a lot more interesting for me to continue after that, I suspect.

From: [identity profile] golaski.livejournal.com


A good point, although I don't think it's entirely different--I think the Dexter creators are aware of the trope, and the whole channeling idea--an interesting fantasy--is their solution. A solution that challenges suspension of disbelief pretty far, but that's supported by a good cast and yes--the office dynamics, which are interesting and worth watching the show for. So when you finish... I look forward to your post!

From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com


Good to know you liked Michael Clayton - I've been considering watching that one, and now I think I will.

Also, re: your last entry - I have a recipe I bet you would LOVE, based on the things you were eating with your drinks etc. It's a kind of brie-nuts-honey-bake thing. Shall I hunt it up for you? It's fantastic with wine, too.

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We saw Juno this weekend. I liked it more than I thought I would. Very snappy dialogue (in a few cases, we had to run the disc back to catch some of the words), but really good family dynamics (I could totally see my family in some of the ways they acted). Jennifer Garner looked a lot harsher than I would have expected. And the star, Ellen Page, was great; I now understand why she was nominated for the award.

From: [identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com


Yes, please. I've had baked brie...would love to see another recipe!

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Have you seen anything else by Kim Ki-duk? He's a very odd filmmaker. (Sometimes I feel very, well, "ugh!" after I see one of his films, but they're usually interesting and refreshingly don't try to hide/deny the nasty underbelly of Korean society, like most here films do.) I think my favorite -- and certainly the most popular -- is Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring but everything I've seen has been interesting, if a bit, well, weird. (Except The Bow which just was, um, well, not my thing. A common reaction, it seems.)

Oh, and apparently, Kim recently (in the last year or so) had a whole complicated ordeal, best described here. I don't always like his work, but he is one of the most interesting filmmakers here, and, unfortunately, Koreans in general prefer predictable, easy, and unchallenging fare. (ie. If a movie bombs in Korea, I usually take it as a sign that it's interesting, intelligent, well-written, and will succeed abroad. And those that succeed the most in Korea, like, say, D-War, are usually just boring hypernationalist crap, though of course there are exceptions.)

From: [identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com


No problem :-)

Nope. I'd never heard of him before Lucius recced the movie to me. Will have to check out other movies by him when I've got a chance.

From: [identity profile] eclexys.livejournal.com


I would say the best ones I've seen were The Isle (a black-hearted fairytale), Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring which is a kind of Buddhist fairytale about growth, karma, and dharma, and probably the least icky as the nasty stuff happens offscreen. I also found Bad Guy (about forced prostitution, with a gangster that makes Ralphie or Tony in The Sopranos look like Gandhi) and Samaritan Girl (about "compensated dating", ie. underage prostitutes with older guys, a somewhat serious and growing social issue here) pretty interesting, but maybe more because I'm interested in how Korean artists depict Korean society, and how it compares to the reality we see on the streets.

I should note that while Kim doesn't quite shy away from putting shocking things onscreen -- things lots of directors just avoid and whitewash -- he does also... I don't know, romanticize is the wrong word, sort of. But sort of not. In a film like Samaritan Girl or Bad Guy his honesty, and the spin he puts on things, can be even more disturbing than the absence. I have a feeling you might find those latter films offensive for reasons similar to what turned you off in von Trier's work, though Kim is less misogynistic than straight-up misanthropic, I think. (With the exception of Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring.

Oh, and while I'm recommending Korean films: Please Take Care of My Cat is probably the best mainstream film here I've seen (aside from Lee Chang Dong's Peppermint Candy, which is kind of mindblowing, and about the Kwangju Uprising and how the military dictatorships totally screwed up Korean society). I also liked The Barber of Hyojadong (about the Park dictatorship from the POV of a regular Joe, sort of) and Lee Chang Dong's Oasis which is probably the most moving of all the films I've listed. And if you want something bizarre -- a sort of mixture of Misery and Silence of the Lambs but comedy, with cartoony SFnal elements, Save the Green Planet was about the weirdest Korean movie I've ever seen, except a very amusing musical released the other year called Requiem for the Ghost Cinema, a very rough and funny musical set in a haunted movie cinema (which falters toward the end, but is still mostly fun). Oh, and Dasepo Girls, I think it's called, a kind of psychotic sex-comedy set in a high school, with cyclopes, crossdressing middle aged men, a karate fight with a flasher... also a musical. (And these high school sex comedies seem to be on the rise here, in the wake of American Pie I guess.)

Alright, I'll stop. Who knows how many of these are available there. (But if you can't find something, and are curious, let me know.)

From: [identity profile] unwriter.livejournal.com


I've just discovered Dexter as well.

Quite an uncommon idea for a series. The acting as well as the writing (so far, especially for a first season) is very good.

From: [identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com


Just watched four more episodes last night and they were pretty good.

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In some ways, I have difficulty suspending my disbelief that Hall is actually capable of being a serial killer.

But the show is head and shoulders above so much of its ilk currently playing on American tv.

For Lucius though it's still dandruff...

I sort of waffle on it a bit. The writing is dramatically enjoyable for the most part but unrealistic...ex. Dexter's sister falling for the serial killer.

From: [identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com


There are a few too many coincidences..you just gave away a spoiler, you know... Luckily I already watched the show that introduced that :-)

From: [identity profile] pm-again.livejournal.com


Well I guess for those who don't already know...I should come with a spoiler warning attached ,-}
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