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ellen_datlow ([personal profile] ellen_datlow) wrote2008-08-20 05:11 pm

A rant on proper manuscript formatting

Recent reading and editing has brought to my attention the fact that some writers have suddenly (well, since using computers and email) decided that the usual rules of mss preparation are no longer necessary.

Three examples:
1) I have received print submissions without PAGE NUMBERS (not often, but still, this should never happen).

2) I have increasingly been the recipient of manuscripts that don't underline words meant to be italicized in the story's final, printed form. The reason editors/copy editors/and whoever does the production on a mss need to see underlines is that some typefaces don't show italics very well, and even if they did--it's quicker to "see" underline than italics

3)I have been receiving mss without anything indicating space breaks. What happened to ###? I'm in the middle of reading a printout that seemed to be missing at least two pages because there were no transitions...When I checked the efile, lo and behold, the sentence breaks were in different places so I could actually see that there were supposed to be space breaks. Writers--new and pro--please please show your space breaks by putting in hash marks.

4) Paragraphing--before online publishing, paragraphing was shown by indenting margins...Guess what, folks? Most publishing (especially of books) is still print, which means that paragraphs are indented.

Rant over

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I convert rtfs to word on receipt.

How would one edit a pdf file? (or am I behind on the most recent pdf upgrade?)

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, you mean print it out first :-) but then it's single space...not really good for line editing.

[identity profile] shweta-narayan.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Er, I mean I use pdfs when I have to submit hardcopy, and would never inflict them on someone who wanted to edit on the computer.

The program I use makes magic courier-font underline-for-italics double-spaced one inch margin header-and-page-number manuscript pdfs. Rtf conversion is much harder, here.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I had the recent hellish experience of going over a pdf file of copyedits already incorporated into the text and having to switch back and forth between the original word file of each story, the raw copy edit as a word file (with tracking changes)of each story, and the pdf file to see what was done...so I'm not feeling too warmly towards pdf files right now :-)

[identity profile] shweta-narayan.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
eek.


*fans self, looks around for vinaigrette, faints*

[identity profile] silviamg.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
Depends how major the edits are. Adobe Acrobat Professional allows you to do edits on a PDF (simple ones, I wouldn't recommend removing 4 paragraphs) or to convert it back into a Word document, preserving its elements and look.

[identity profile] silviamg.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Version 9 of Adobe Acrobat btw. I can't remember the capabilities of the older ones.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if I have acrobat 9 but I wouldn't edit on that anyway as it's single spaced (or can you adjust it?)

[identity profile] silviamg.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Single space is a big problem. If it's single space I would just use the convert to Word function and then work in Word. It might save you some grief rather than copy and pasting depending on how intricate the formatting was in the first place.



[identity profile] julieandrews.livejournal.com 2008-08-24 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you need to buy Adobe Acrobat (not just the Reader) to edit PDFs. I was thinking more of the accept/reject phase of things, not actual editing. PDFs definitely not top of the list for editing.