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ellen_datlow ([personal profile] ellen_datlow) wrote2008-04-20 01:20 pm

review of Black Thorn, White Rose

Tehani Wessely of Australia reviews the new edition of Black Thorn, White Rose. She mostly likes the stories and overall gives the book a very good review, but this paragraph struck me:

"Fourteen years is a long time, and these stories first saw print in 1994. So much has changed in the world since then: the ways we perceive good and evil not the least, but also the things that have the power to shock us, to scare us, and to permit us to suspend our disbelief. Hence, there were stories in this anthology that felt old, dated, tired. It is possible to envisage them as fresh and groundbreaking when first published, but the intervening years, and many similar collections (including a number produced by the same editors, some of which I will review soon), have left this anthology feeling a little stale."

Dragonkat@LJ

Once I edit an anthology I rarely reread the stories in print. I've already read them a number of times during the editing process. So I'm not a good judge of this.

Is it true that an anthology series such as the adult fairy tale anthologies, all published in the mid-to late 90s can become dated? I'd think it would completely depend on each individual story. (this is for any fiction written after traumatic current events such as post Vietnam war, post 9/11, et al).

If the story is tied to a particular sensibility or for example, air travel is depicted more innocently than now in our time of terrorism fear does this necessarily date the story or merely make it a snapshot of time?

Because my head is a complete muddle of stuffiness and I'm feeling kind of wretched, I'm not sure if this makes sense, but I'd love some opinions.

[identity profile] imago1.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"The end result is that this anthology performs the rather dubious task of removing fairy tales from the nursery and putting them in the adult novelty store instead."

Ironically, fairy tales were not generally intended to calm children, but often to terrorize them. Snow White's stepmother being made to dance in red hot iron boots until she died, for example.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Obviously, the reader loves her Disnyfied fairy tales--which have their place--I loved the early cartoon versions of some. But what she didn't do was read the introduction or understand the first thing about what fairy tales were meant to be.

[identity profile] imago1.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I got my hands on a translation of the original Grimm's tales when I was eleven or twelve. Murder, sex, gore, cannibalism, revenge, antiheroes. All the good stuff. Perhaps this explains why I didn't end up writing paranormal romance.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't think you could switch now?

[identity profile] imago1.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps under my pseudonym "Lairdweena Barrow".

[identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Aren't they awesome in their original, unsweetened forms? I love them more that way.

[identity profile] imago1.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I was a blood-thirsty little bugger back in the day, so I liked them straight off.