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ellen_datlow ([personal profile] ellen_datlow) wrote2008-11-17 09:24 pm

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And yet again, my outlook email has been crashing as it tries to download my 200 or so saved emails from my trip. Which means I now have about 8 copies of some emails there. And that I can't go in there again till Jim Freund and I see what the effing problem is with pc anywhere tomorrow morning.
In the meantime, I can access my email through webmail but what a pain. I may have to leave outlook if we can't figure out why it does this. (I turned off the email scanner as that helped last time, but no such luck this time--it has gotten almost halfway through but no further. Blghhhh.
Glad to me home and Bella has been laying all over me and the keyboard (no, she's not the reason it crashes ;-) ).
Unpacking and catching up on stuff.

[identity profile] medievalist.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't have a serious love of Outlook, do use another email client.

Thuderbird is free, from the makers of Firefox.

Eudora is a paid client -- it's not expensive, but people love it or hate it, and I'm in the "love" camp, so am not a good source of info.

[identity profile] charlesatan.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Good luck with the email woes.

[identity profile] joeicarus.blogspot.com (from livejournal.com) 2008-11-18 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
I've been using the latest version of Thunderbird for the last six months or so, and I've been happy with it. Outlook used to give me all sorts of problems with my e-mail accounts as well. It would work for months and then suddenly decide it couldn't read an account at all for no discernible reason.

I still use Outlook on my PocketPC, but I never really sync my pocket pc with my laptop anyway.

In case you're interested:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...I'm on outlook 2003 and there's not even any more support for it.
I don't like the way Eudora looks. I've asked Jim to help me find something that looks like the config of outlook that I use...it might be time to move me over...
thanks

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks Charles and thanks Joe...
I know Jim mentioned thunderbird but there was something else too...

[identity profile] charlesatan.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
There's also Opera Mail (http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/m2/) although I haven't tried it.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
thanks.

[identity profile] pds-lit.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Welcome Home!

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Very glad to be home..
How's the hubby?

[identity profile] pds-lit.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Doing much better.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really glad to hear that.

[identity profile] halspacejock.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
I suggest Thunderbird, as many others probably will. Free download, free to use, less buggy.

The interface is fine, and my wife's been using it for years without problem. She can usually crash any app in about five minutes flat just by looking at it, too. (Something she's proud of!)

[identity profile] halspacejock.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Alternatively you might like to set up a free Gmail account and use webmail instead of a PC mail client - you could access all your mail from any browser window then.

(I'm firmly in the 'use an email client' myself, because I loathe webmail thanks to its lack of flexibility. However, it is an option for many.)

I mentioned Thunderbird below, which is one option. You could also install my freeware yMail2 client and just use it to block & kill off (from the ISP's server) whichever of those 200 emails is causing Outlook to crash. Then download the other 199 into Outlook.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
thanks. There was one that Jim showed me that looked close enough to outlook that I thought I could live with it.

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh nonnononono. I hate webmail. That's what I'm currently using (my isp's--bway.net) until outlook is fixed.

I already deleted everything I didn't need while traveling. What's left are the items I DO need and need to have in specific folders.

[identity profile] medievalist.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
If you haven't actually tried GMail, you might; it's not like Web mail.

And you can do things like have your email forwarded there, or elsewhere, and always have a backup.

And you can have a copy at gmail, and download one locally with an email client.

[identity profile] bev-vincent.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
I used Outlook Express for years. Earlier this year, they released a new (free) product to replace OE that handles large e-mails better. It's called Windows Live Mail. I've been using it for several months without any issues--it accesses my webmail account, Hotmail and Gmail all at the same time (but keeps them separate, so I know which address things came to).

[identity profile] satyrblade.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Sorry.

I don't use Outlook anymore. Haven't since I was working on Deliria around 2002 or so, when a "helpful" Outlook feature automatically opened attached files, sprung a virus that one of my artists had accidentally sent me, and wrecked my system. I understand they've fixed that "helpful" little feature, but I haven't trusted the program since.

[identity profile] pm-again.livejournal.com 2008-11-28 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Just seeing your post.

Here's a couple of things to be aware of...

Outlook uses two pst files to store your email/contacts/calendar etc. One if for your current mail typically named Personal Folder and the other is the archive. If you used it prior to Outlook 2003, then your pst file is limited to 2 GB in size. There is no warning when you hit the limit...just weird behavior.

pst files end with the file extension .pst.

Microsoft has a utility named scanpst.exe which is used to repair pst files. pst files can become corrupted. Just be aware that if your pst file is large it can take a few hours for the process to complete. You're not provided with any kind of onscreen feedback as the scan is in progress.

So if you find that your pst file(s) are at the 2 GB limit, what you would do is:

1. Use scanpst.exe to confirm that the pst files are ok.

2. Create a new Outlook 2003 pst file which has a file limit size of 20 instead of 2 GB. Then import your pre-existing pst file's email/contacts/calendar/etc into the new one.

Live happily ever after for a undetermined period of time...:)

[identity profile] ellen-datlow.livejournal.com 2008-11-28 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks. I've passed this on to my tech guy, just in case he's not aware of this (although I bet he is).