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ellen_datlow ([personal profile] ellen_datlow) wrote2008-07-29 08:35 pm
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Orson Scott Card on gay marriage

(A hint. He's not for it)
Mormon Times

Thanks to Cheryl Morgan

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2008-07-30 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I thought California enjoyed an extremely brief period as an independent republic before joining the US?

And Hawaii was a nation on its own, both as a monarchy and after the Committee of Safety staged its coup as a republic

[identity profile] txtriffidranch.livejournal.com 2008-07-30 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
California was a territory, but it wasn't an actual country. Hawaii, though, is a good point, and I'd love to find out why it doesn't qualify.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2008-07-30 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I believe California declared independence from Mexico on June 14, 1846 and was annexed by the USA on July 9, 1846. Between those two dates it was the California Republic, also known as the Bear Flag Republic.

[identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com 2008-07-30 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
If I remember my fourth-grade California history lessons, that's correct. (Yes, back in the Neolithic when schools received actual funding, we studied California history.)

[identity profile] magistera.livejournal.com 2008-07-31 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe because Hawaii didn't exactly agree to stop being its own country.

[identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com 2008-07-30 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
And Vermont, for a little while, though it styled itself a State rather than a Republic.